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The McLaren radio messages which show how they tried to manage plank wear

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McLaren’s radio messages during the Las Vegas Grand Prix show how they tried to contain the problem which led to their double disqualification.

Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri were disqualified after the planks on the underside of their cars were found to be excessively worn. Their best chance of avoiding that during the race was to reduce their pace at points on the track where the most damage would occur. They attempted to do this, but were unsuccessful with both cars.

Neither of the drivers’ race engineers directly referred to concerns with their planks. This was likely in order to avoid tipping off their rivals.

In this, at least, McLaren appeared to be successful. Even when Norris slowed down drastically at the end of the race, giving the first obvious indication something was wrong, Red Bull told Max Verstappen his McLaren rival had “some form of issue.”

But details revealed in the FIA documents explaining their disqualification, combined with the messages both drivers received, indicate McLaren were trying to minimise the damage to their planks at three main points on the circuit.

These were turns 5, 11 and 17. Norris was given instructions about managing his pace in these three corners more often than anywhere else. Piastri also had more messages about turns five and 11. He discussed turn 17 less frequently, but did ask mid-race “do you want me to keep lifting at all into turn 17?” and received an affirmative response, indicating he did so consistently.

Why these three corners? Piastri was reminded of the need to do “li-co” (lift the accelerator and coast into the corner) at turn five for “the bump”. The underside of the McLaren was sparking at this point on the circuit during the race.

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Turns 11 and 17, meanwhile, are the fastest left-hand corners on the track. Left-hand turns lead to greater wear on the right-hand side of the car and this was where the majority of McLaren’s plank wear occured.

Lando Norris, Oscar Piastri, McLaren, Las Vegas Strip Circuit, 2025
Report: McLaren apologise to Norris and Piastri for double disqualification

Norris’s plank was only illegal on its right-hand side: it was 0.12mm under at the front and 0.07mm at the rear. Piastri’s was also illegal in the same positions by 0.26mm and 0.1mm respectively. His car also failed an inspection at the front-left by a smaller margin of 0.04mm.

Teams routinely instruct their drivers to reduce their pace during races for different reasons, such as to conserve fuel, protect tyres or reduce overheating. However the fact McLaren’s warnings were biased to these two corners in particular indicates a link to the plank problem which ruined their weekend.

McLaren’s statement indicates they did not discover the problem earlier in the weekend because second practice was disrupted by red flags and Friday’s running was affected by rain. The latter causes lower cornering speeds and therefore less plank wear. The picture would also have been complicated by Pirelli’s tyre pressure change after the first day of running. None of this, of course, excuses McLaren making an error which their nine rivals avoided.

Although McLaren said they discovered the problem “during the race”, they likely saw the first indication of it during the pre-race reconnaissance laps, allowing them to notify their drivers before they got into the cars. There is no indication they discovered the problem mid-race and communicated it to their drivers then.

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Norris’s sudden drop-off in pace at the end of the race prompted speculation McLaren had instructed him to back off to save fuel. A single radio message referencing his fuel situation appeared to validate this, but the double disqualification for entirely different reasons reveals this communication was a red herring.

His pace dropped off steeply after he asked the team to tell him how to “do whatever we’ve got to do.” Norris’s late bid to avoid disqualification was to no avail.

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Selected radio messages to Norris and Piastri during the race

Start, Las Vegas Strip Circuit, 2025
Norris dropped behind Verstappen at the start

Norris lost his lead to Verstappen at the start of the race. As he pursued the Red Bull and George Russell’s Mercedes, Joseph told him to increase the amount of lifting he was doing in turns 11 and six – the latter another quick left-hander.

Lap: 5/50 NOR: 1’36.965, PIA: 1’37.624
JosephAnd suggest slightly more lift, turn six, turn 11.
Lap: 6/50 NOR: 1’36.777, PIA: 1’37.098
JosephAnd opportunity pace through turn three.StallardCar behind is now Leclerc. Suggest earlier deeper lift in turn 10 if possible.
StallardLet me know if there’s any changes.
PiastriYeah, they feel fine now.
Lap: 7/50 NOR: 1’36.777, PIA: 1’37.098
StallardGood step, turn five, Oscar. Good step turn five this lap. Remember we want to be using the brake.

Norris continued to receive messages about how much he needed to lift off in several corners until Russell pitted on lap 17, when McLaren told him to increase his pace.

Lap: 8/50 NOR: 1’36.966, PIA: 1’36.741
JosephAnd Lando strat seven, please, strat seven. Ideally do a small lift in turn 17, turn five, turn 12, please.
Lap: 11/50 NOR: 1’36.345, PIA: 1’36.705
NorrisYeah, I mean the fronts are looking a little bit worse. That’s still what I’m afraid of.
Lap: 12/50 NOR: 1’36.264, PIA: 1’38.447
JosephAnd Lando, we think you’re in a similar position to Verstappen. Russell, if anything, slightly better, but only a small amount.
NorrisFront or rear?
JosephFront.
Lap: 13/50 NOR: 1’36.298, PIA: 1’37.290
JosephAnd Lando, you’re currently the fastest car on track. If possible, slightly bigger lift, 17, five and 12, please.
Lap: 14/50 NOR: 1’35.962, PIA: 1’37.579
JosephLando, we’re currently thinking plan B plus five. Plan B plus five.
NorrisYeah, confirm.
JosephAnd the size of lift in turn 11 is good. Just a little bit earlier, please.

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But within just three laps McLaren told Norris he had to reduce his speed at the same key points on the lap again. Norris pointed out this would cost them over the lap. Joseph said backing off at turns 5, 11 and 17 would help with his tyres but the plank was surely at least as much a consideration.

Piastri received messages about managing his pace less often than Norris did, as he spent much of his race stuck in traffic, and therefore was not able to drive close to his maximum pace much of the time.

Lap: 18/50 NOR: 1’35.591, PIA: 1’36.282
JosephOkay, this is our chance. Try and pick up the pace.StallardSuggest orange torque one, orange torque one. Oscar when possible, li-co into five, li-co into five and diff in 11.
NorrisYeah, no, I am. Clean air is just miles better, so …
JosephConfirming, we’re just going to stay out, please.
NorrisConfirm.
Lap: 19/50 NOR: 1’35.769, PIA: 1’36.426
StallardMatched Leclerc, Sainz 36.7.
StallardAnd Oscar with the li-co, there’s an opportunity of braking turn five.
Lap: 20/50 NOR: 1’35.680, PIA: 1’36.707
JosephLando, we need to start doing those lifts in 17, 5 and 12, again, please.
Lap: 21/50 NOR: 1’36.320, PIA: 1’40.682
NorrisYep, pace will go.
NorrisFront’s going a bit more.
JosephOkay. Understood.
Lap: 22/50 NOR: 1’41.141, PIA: 1’51.292
NorrisConfirm.
Lap: 23/50 NOR: 1’51.904, PIA: 1’35.921
NorrisAlright, you got to tell me two things: am I doing my race or am I trying to go forwards?
JosephSo Lando, we think this is plan B for everyone. We want to go forwards, but the way to beat Russell will be at the end. We want better tyres than him at the end.
Lap: 24/50 NOR: 1’35.860, PIA: 1’36.118
JosephSo the lifts into 5, 11 and 17 will help save those tyres.

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Oscar Piastri, McLaren, Las Vegas Strip Circuit, 2025
Piastri spent more of his race stuck in traffic

Piastri’s race engineer Tom Stallard told him to make sure he lifted earlier in the transition from turns 10 to 11.

Lap: 26/50 NOR: 1’35.603, PIA: 1’35.226
StallardOscar you can phase out the lift in 10, but keep the lift in 11.
Lap: 27/50 NOR: 1’35.624, PIA: 1’35.521
JosephSo Lando keep using the toggle in 11, but do the lift as well.StallardTurn three, earlier lifts to protect the fronts.
JosephAnd Lando everything you did in 17, 5 and 11 this lap is good, keep doing it.
Lap: 28/50 NOR: 1’35.375, PIA: 1’35.074
NorrisYeah, but we’re just slow because of it.StallardBit of li-co into five please, the bump.
JosephLando, our biggest opportunity is still turn three, focusing on the exit like before. I know it’s bad for tyres, but…PiastriDo you want me to keep lifting at all into turn 17 or not?
StallardInto 17, yes, 11 yes, 10 only if you want it. Also li-co into five.
Lap: 30/50 NOR: 1’35.074, PIA: 1’34.895
StallardTurn one, focus on early throttle and still suggest earlier lift turn three to avoid generating any understeer.
Lap: 31/50 NOR: 1’34.693, PIA: 1’35.138
StallardOscar earlier lift in 11 please as you change direction.
StallardTurn one was very good this lap. Turn one very good.

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Lando Norris, George Russell, Las Vegas Strip Circuit, 2025
Norris asked McLaren if he should pass Russell

Having changed tyres, Norris gained on Russell. But tellingly he was unsure whether he was better off staying within DRS range of the Mercedes or passing him. Joseph told him to take the position.

Given the amount of pace management he was having to do, Norris was puzzled by McLaren’s instruction to “get Max”. The team was still telling him to lift off at three points on the lap, as Verstappen’s race engineer also pointed out to him.

McLaren responded by trying to help Norris find pace elsewhere on the lap. They had already suggested a change of line at turn three, even at the expense of his tyre performance, and now recommended he alter his approach to turn 14.

Lap: 32/50 NOR: 1’34.442, PIA: 1’35.433
NorrisHas George grained or what? Did he complain?
JosephThey’re struggling. They’re being asked to do more saving. Try and get in his DRS. That’s both Mercedes.
Lap: 33/50 NOR: 1’34.845, PIA: 1’34.873
NorrisYou want me DRS or overtake?
JosephOvertake him. Overtake him. We’re going to go get Max.
Lap: 34/50 NOR: 1’34.834, PIA: 1’34.684
JosephAnd early overtake is available.
JosephTerrific mate. Right, let’s go get Max but continue with 17, 5 and 11.
Lap: 35/50 NOR: 1’34.437, PIA: 1’34.848
JosephAnd George does have DRS.StallardMore li-co turn five when possible.
Lap: 36/50 NOR: 1’34.980, PIA: 1’34.637
NorrisWhat do you mean get Max? We’re just slow.
JosephThey’ve told Max to reduce all management. And we’re not slow. Our last lap was faster than him.
Lap: 37/50 NOR: 1’34.216, PIA: 1’34.743
JosephAnd Lando would like to do a late overtake press into turn 14 every single lap please.
Lap: 38/50 NOR: 1’34.209, PIA: 1’35.581
JosephLando, opportunity. If we can carry more minimum in turn one to allow us to open the line in turn three, it might help the throttle on the exit of three. And reminder overtake 14, every lap.
Lap: 40/50 NOR: 1’34.399, PIA: 1’34.570
JosephAnd just be careful the late brake into 14.
Lap: 41/50 NOR: 1’33.965, PIA: 1’34.643
JosephAnd remind about overtake. And suggest silver D4 silver D4, the fronts look more robust on this tyre. And reminder overtake.

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Lando Norris, McLaren, Las Vegas Strip Circuit, 2025
Norris appeared to make his own decision to suddenly slow down late in the race

McLaren did not give Norris a message telling him to reduce his pace late in the race: he was the one who instigated his drop in performance over the final laps. He slowed down significantly, by well over three seconds per lap compared to Piastri at times.

It seems that Norris decided his pursuit of Verstappen was futile, knew he had a significant gap over Russell and decided to focus on looking after his plank as much as possible. The fact he was able to do this may explain why his plank was not over-worn to the same extent as Piastri’s, but it was not enough to prevent him joining his team mate in disqualification after the race.

Lap: 42/50 NOR: 1’34.081, PIA: 1’34.641
JosephJoseph: And suggest silver D4 silver D4, the fronts look more robust on this tyre. And reminder, overtake.
NorrisYep. Let’s just do whatever we got to do, please, so tell me whatever I got to do.
JosephOkay, in which case just do more.
Lap: 43/50 NOR: 1’34.271, PIA: 1’34.499
NorrisWhat do I do with 10? Because sometimes I lift more, it just feels worse.
JosephJoseph: Whatever you do in 10 doesn’t make much difference. It’s more 11 and 12. The next thing you can do is earlier into 17.
Lap: 46/50 NOR: 1’35.534, PIA: 1’34.588
JosephAnd overtake. And happy to try a lift in 10.
JosephThat’s four laps to go.
Lap: 47/50 NOR: 1’36.128, PIA: 1’34.086
NorrisYou’re happy with everything? Need more or what?
JosephSo Lando still do overtake into 14. We can do an earlier lift into 17, bigger lift into 11. Happy to lose two seconds in the three laps remaining.
Lap: 48/50 NOR: 1’37.702, PIA: 1’34.165
JosephOvertake and then that lift.

Underlining how concerned McLaren were about the plank situation, Piastri was even reminded on the final lap to lift off again, past the point at which the team would have been worrying about tyre wear.

The only message to Norris regarding fuel came on the final lap, long after he had begun backing off.

Lap: 49/50 NOR: 1’37.734, PIA: 1’34.466
JosephAnd Lando you can reduce what you’re doing a small amount. The fuel looks okay now.StallardOne lap to go. If you can’t get closer to Antonelli, bring back the lift in five, eleven.

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